Monday, February 11, 2008

something else entirely

This is my pull question for The Bacche, I found the subject interesting and thought i'd post it here to see what any of you though about this subject.


In our culture, the church fights a popular image of stiff-necked hypocrites and people who are simply boring, lacking any of the joys or merriment of life. These images are horrendously detrimental when we are trying to reach out to the lost and we as the Church must find a way to combat them. In searching for this battle strategy it is helpful to look at the characters of Pentheus and Dionysus in The Bacche and analyze the way they represent the views of the church .
Pentheus represents structure, formality, duty and responsibility and yet he is curious of life outside his own rules and will break them to explore the forbidden delights. Dionysus on the other hand, represents the opposite of the church, living loosely and embodying the utter ends of a life lived for passion and gratification. Traditionally, Christians have taken one of two methods in combating these stereotypes. Either they choose to defend Pentheus and say why he was truly the greater man and his way of living is best or they choose to put themselves forth as the true Dionysus and appropriate his lifestyle as their own. Unfortunately, neither of these options are the correct response.
Defending Pentheus is a dangerous option for Christians, because we defend what we are not. Christianity does support duty and responsibility as Pentheus does, however there is one thing on which the two differ greatly – freedom. Pentheus is so strangled by legality that he is unable to see when change is necessary and even good. He has no freedom to actually enjoy life, and is instead so consumed with keeping order that he cannot exercise any freedom to rejoice in his life. The Church, as Christ intended it to be, is the epitome of this freedom, allowing for change and joy in life. By defending the whole of Pentheus we are, in reality, advocating this loss of freedom.
However, becoming Dionysus is equally dangerous. Though certainly appealing to the lost, this option is also a false representation of Christianity for it really only offers salvation for those who have no intention of ever making a lifestyle change. In fact, the reason there is so much sin and pleasure seeking in the Church is likely because Christianity has been presented as a form of the Dionysian lifestyle. However this is in direct contradiction with the Biblical standards of holiness and self-sacrifice. Additionally, Dionysus severely lacks mercy. He offers acceptance perhaps, but no mercy. Either you support him entirely, or you will die, there is no room for repentance. This is completely the opposite of the gospel, offers forgiveness for mistakes and an opportunity to repent for sin.
The correct response, then, is to portray the Church as neither Pentheus nor Dionysus, but rather as something else entirely. The stereotype should be that the Church is a place where Pentheus finds freedom and Dionysus finds mercy and forgiveness. We need to expose the weaknesses of both characters and show how the Church comes in and completes them.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hey sis!! I like your blog!! It was interesting to say the least. However, I do have a question. When you stated that "He (Pantheus) has no freedom to actually enjoy life..." there I believe would differ.

Though, before I state my reasons why, let me acknowledge that I am only aware of the information pertaining to this subject by what you have previously posted and therefore my knowledge is very limited. Also I realize might have misunderstood what you have written as well, so please feel free to correct me and in fact, if I am completely missing the mark, please do.

You see, when you say that "he has no freedom..." I do not believe that to be true with the given information I have read. He does in fact HAVE the freedom to do whatever it is he wishes. Granted he is very committed to his duties and as you stated he "...is instead so consumed with keeping order that he cannot exercise any freedom to rejoice in his life."

However, that would be under the assumption that the work of the church is in fact a burden and to be taken as a grueling and labor some duty. However, I would submit it to you that, if he indeed is fallowing hard after Christ and His teachings then he would find the greatest joy.

God intended us to do his works for eternity. That is why the bible speaks of us worshipping God and abiding in his presence forever. If I have miss read the information please correct me and ignore my comments but if Pantheus is doing God's work, and if he is committed to him in diligence, how then is it possible for him to be miserable? If our greatest reward in life will be to serve God for an eternity, then would it be just to say that that servitude is not one of freedom? Because we would not want to constantly be ho humming some God on a thrown forever? I mean where’s the fun in that? I believe that the "freedom less lifestyle" is a worldly name for our occupation under Christ. To the world, yes it would be very cumbersome and viewed as a freedom less lifestyle. But I don't think it is.When we become Christians, do we not surrender our lives to him and therefore for fit our freedom to his will? Is that not an act of salvation? If we do not surrender all that we are and give our gift of free will back to God then we will indeed, out of our fallen nature, manipulate that freedom and trade it for the shackles of sin. I think that the greatest gift of all would be the ability to be starring at the face of God, and as long as I hold that belief, I cannot endorse the thought of doing God's work as being a freedom less and cumbersome affair. God will give you strength to do all things, and in his presence you will find peace and joy. If that is true, then how can you be freedom less in the face of God and how can fallowing him and doing his work be a burden? If we are in Heaven doing the same, then in the mindset I understand to have been stated, the would that be punishment, when heaven, as you know, is actually a blessing and one of the most precious gifts given from God. If he is indeed doing the work of God, it would not be freedom less but freedom giving and therefore why would we not endorse such an action?

just a thought...
~Hannah ;)

PS. What do you think???

Karyn said...

Hey Hannah,

I'm so excited that you are reading my blog!! I really value you're opinion and think you have a lot of really good things to say so keep it coming!!

I think that you make a valid point and have the right idea about what doing God's work really is. I especially like how you said that "if he indeed is following hard after Christ and His teachings then he would find the greatest joy." I think you put into so many words what I was trying to communicate the life that, given the proper freedom, Pentheus could live. However, Pentheus does not even have the freedom to truly follow Christ because he is "so strangled by legality that he is unable to see when change is necessary and even good." For Pentheus (as a symbol of the Chruch) is so caught up in doing the work of God as a legal duty that he cannot find it in himself to be flexible and open to God when He makes changes. So Pentheus is then stuck in a place where he cannot effectively even do the work of God because he is so bound by traditions that he cannot follow where God leads. This lack of freedom is what keeps him from enjoying life because he cannot even do the work of God that you so well pointed out is necessary to enjoy life.

I'm not sure if i communicated that other than the short sentence about legality in the third paragraph so sorry if i didn't say that well. But really, Hannah, I'm impressed with the way you explained the joy of living a life doing the work of God, I think if more Christians would really, honestly do that, the World would have a much better outlook on the Church.

Thanks so much for your input!!!

Love you!